God Says Kill Horny Women

It took me a while to figure out why religions hate extramarital sex. For the longest time I just figured they were a bunch of up-tight prudes that couldn’t get laid and thus didn’t want anyone else to get laid either.  Granted, a lot of them these days do fit into that category, but I don’t think that’s how the whole thing started.

Like The Ten Commandments (stolen from Hammurabi), most of the religious prohibitions have a basis in reason. You don’t kill so that no one else is allowed to kill you. You don’t steal so no one steals from you.  Basic logic. In Judaism, Kosher tell you not to eat pork.  In Islam, pork is not Halal. But it’s not that their god hates pigs. Pork goes rancid quick, and people die.  (FYI, this is how Gautama, the original Buddha, died: Bad pork.)

Religions have a long track record of stealing common-sense solutions and saying that their god told them about it.  In reality the priests, rabbis, and imams were just putting into law the things that trial-and-error had taught them were bad. Rather than explaining to the unwashed masses why pork was bad, they told them that God said it was bad. No further explanation was needed, and far fewer people died of scrofula or tape worms.

But why they came out so vehemently against premarital sex eluded me, though. I mean, yes, there is always the chance of getting a variety of social diseases, but at the time they banned it there wasn’t  a great understanding of the cause-and-effect of these diseases.  (Given that the symptoms tended to appear long after the act.)  Then it hit me: the churches don’t want a bunch of illegitimate babies showing up on their doorsteps every morning. It’s too expensive, and if sex was allowed to run rampant they’d be up to their ears in kids in no time. The solution: Control sex. (Cuz that always works well…)

As with the pork, they didn’t bother to educate people about unwanted pregnancy.  Seeing a need to keep population in check, they just went ahead and told the people that God had commanded them not to have sex outside of marriage. As women were the ones likely to get pregnant, the prohibition on sex was made far, far harsher for them.

While this whole thing may seem blatantly obvious, there’s a cruel side to it that’s been rearing its ugly head a lot lately. Because it was ‘God’ that said not to have sex, it’s been mandatory for all ‘good’ people to enforce ‘His’ will on Earth.  While it would be great if this were restricted to snide comments and bad Sex-Ed videos, the headlines of late have been painting a much bleaker picture. It’s not getting better. In fact, the right-wing nutbars have been out in force of late, working hard to make sure no woman anywhere is enjoying a healthy sex life:

 

Jewish gender segregation campaign turns violent

Clashes erupted on Monday between police and several hundred ultra-Orthodox Jews from a town near Jerusalem who are campaigning for men and women to be segregated, an AFP journalist said.

 

Egyptian Female Protesters Forced To Take ‘Virginity Tests’

“When we went to the military prison, me and the girls, we were placed in a room with two doors and a window. The two doors were wide open,” she said in March. “The girl takes off all her clothes to be searched while there were cameras outside filming to fabricate prostitution charges against us later on,” she added.

 

My message to the self-righteous ‘true believers’  world-wide is simple: Science has already solved this problem for you. Unlike the rabbis, imams, and priests that want to murder any women who gets laid, science has actually managed to negate the pregnancy problem without killing those involved. IUDs, condoms, the Pill, vasectomies, tubal ligation, and a dozen other solutions are already out there, keeping the population under control. I recommend you stop killing people, go back to your places of worship, and leave these people the hell alone.

[A note for all those who are going to write me and say “These people are not TRUE Jews/Muslims/Christians”: Yes, they are.  The edict to kill a promiscuous woman is in each of these faiths, and is clearly spelled out in their holy books. If you as a Jew/Muslim/Christian are not out there killing them, then it’s you that’s not abiding by the holy text.  These guys are spot on to what the Torah, Bible, and Qu’ran have to say about it.]

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17 Responses to “God Says Kill Horny Women”
  1. Moira says:

    Oh, it’s not the horny women God worries about: it’s the men. When the religious norms were being institutionalized centuries ago, the religious leaders, being male, knew only all too well how weak men were. If a man was to see a woman’s hair, they would be driven into a mad frenzy of unending lust, leading to rape and infidelity. A man’s jealousy was another weakness, which would lead to assaults and murders to keep away or avenge interlopers. This would lead to societal chaos. I view all those religious laws as a byproduct of men not trusting themselves and each other. And, if they slipped, they built in the ol’ blame-the-victim loophole.

  2. Anita says:

    Moira:
    Do you believe men are weak? Do you think we need to place any strictures on men’s sexual behavior? ie. encouraging a young man to find a wife and be true to her. If you were in charge, would you have done anything differently?

    Will: Where is the third example of the Christians? Secondly, you wrote, “Unlike the rabbis, imams, and priests (who) want to murder any women who gets laid, science has actually managed to negate the pregnancy problem without killing those involved.” You might have added, “and in many cases by killing any unborn children.” You see, abortion is always the end product when your “system” fails. People use condoms…AND they fail for various reasons. IUD’s and birth control place health risks on the very women whose freedom you seek to increase. And they fail. It is so juvenile to think that the people seeking any strictures on sex do so because they can’t get laid. If the church was worried about illegitimate babies, it was out of concern for their well-being. Kids do best in a loving intact home with their mother and father. And the Catholic Church wouldn’t have been trying to keep the population in check. Certainly not at a time when children added laborers to a rural economy.

  3. admin says:

    As to your need for an third example, look at your own response. You immediately went to the “all sex creates abortions and abortions are evil” response. As to your other comments, you’ve really drunk the Catholic Kool Aid. Used properly, condoms don’t fail. I’ve never seen one break, nor have I ever met someone who has (and yes, I’ve asked). They may not be Kevlar, but they are pretty good for last-minute birth control.

    Pregnazone carries risks of higher breast cancer, but compare this to the MUCH higher risk to the mother of fatal damage done giving birth and it’s a no brainer. (This is how my own mother died; complications of giving birth resulting in failed kidneys, liver, etc.)

    I don’t recc. tubal ligation. Too invasive a surgery. By far the best solution is still vasectomy, which would be more popular if guys could get over the machismo crap.

    As to it being “so juvenile to think that the people seeking any strictures on sex do so because they can’t get laid”, I stand by it.

    Not having sex gives you a view of the world that vacillates between self-loathing and indignation. In the end, though, basic human nature always wins out over fake morality, and the person’s sexuality manifests… often to very bad results. This may be fine if you, personally, want to risk living an aberrant lifestyle (celibacy), but the strictures they place are being set up for OTHER PEOPLE that do not agree with the religious premise of “celibacy or marriage”.

    Religions strive to make everyone (religious or not) live by a code of ethics that makes no sense outside of religion… which was the point of the post. Killing a woman for adultery makes perfect sense if a God told you to do it. Outside of religions, though, it’s absolutely moronic. What we have now is a system where the most sexually deprived are calling the shots, thinking they know best because they feel holier. But their emotions and urges are skewing everything they believe. It’s akin to being really hungry and thinking you could eat a giant pizza, when you really just wanted a single piece. Sexual hunger is like that. It tricks your mind into thinking irrationally, and you believe intently that you are right.

    As to the kids comment: The prohibitions on sex mostly started with Augustine in the fourth and fifth century; long before the establishment of feudal lands and indentured servitude. It was a time when Rome was faltering, Christianity was rising, and places like Augustine’s cloister in Hippo were unprepared for a barrage of infants coming through the door.

    The world would be a lot saner were it not for the life of Augustine.

  4. Anita says:

    Even if there were no celibate priests, the Catholic Church would still find traditional marriage between a man and a woman to be the proper place for a sexual relationship.

    You seem to think celibacy leaves people deranged. How many times would a priest have to have sex for you to believe truths about marriage and sex that he might relay to you?

    I’m sorry your mother died these 40 odd years ago. Maternal outcomes are much better today, and they would be better if government money were funneled away from Planned Parenthood and into research and technology to aid mothers.

    I didn’t say all sex leads to abortion. I said that when your system fails, people turn to abortion. Even one abortion is too many. As it turns out, Canadians have tens of thousands of abortion, so where is all that success with birth control you’re talking about?

  5. admin says:

    Yes, I think celibacy leaves people deranged. Physical intimacy and sexual relations are not just some bizarre notion that I play with; they are basic human needs, without which people start to go stir crazy. That’s not an ‘opinion’.. (Though I am sure the Catholics have come up with refutations for the many studies on intimacy and sexuality that show this to be true). Fact is, though, I first heard this from a Catholic priest.

    It’s not priests word I doubt. It’s where canon-meets-reality that I have a problem. You can preach whatever you want, but the simple truth of life is that the vast, VAST majority of people have not and will not ever have a marriage that is condoned by the Catholics. For RC’s marriage is not just a union between a man and a woman… it’s also a sacrament, and can only be performed by ordained Catholic priests, bishops, etc. No other ‘marriage’ is acceptable in the eyes of the church. THAT is what Catholicism teaches, and no matter how many times a priest says it, it still won’t be true.

    As to the success of birth control… you’re kinda missing the point there. From where you stand, abortion is proof that birth control doesn’t work. From many people’s point of view, abortion IS birth control, and it works fine. Overall, though, I’d rather see a teenage boy with a condom than without one when dating. I think it’s almost criminal for the Church to look at non-Catholic kids that have no parental guidance and withhold birth control. While it may not be 100%, it still goes a hell of a lot further than any sermon ever could to preventing them from screwing up their lives with unwanted children.

  6. Anita says:

    There are two fundamental ways our views differ. You are not interested in the “ideal” way for people to live. Secondly, you take all negative consequences in stride as if they don’t matter, because you would never give up your so-called sexual freedom.

    You’ve read about post-traumatic stress disorder in women following abortions, and a host of other complications from abortion including an increased risk of breast cancer. You’ve read about women dying from blood clots related to Yaz. You’ve known many women who were abandoned by their boyfriends and who have suffered a loss in self-esteem and emotional trauma. But you don’t see a problem. When you set out to please yourself, and advocate this for others, you will never see these problems as substantial or preventable.

    The reason you worry about a teenage boy is not because an unwanted child might interfere with his life. (Besides, it’s the mother who’s usually left alone with the baby.) It’s because you can’t imagine a world where his actions might be corrected or limited. That’s the real sin in your mind.

  7. admin says:

    You seem to think I’m a hedonist. I’m not. I’m a realist. Religions have tried for thousands of years to apply your “cure” and failed. Truth is, teenagers will have sex, women will have abortions, and the vast majority of people on this planet will never, ever agree with Catholic doctrine. That is the world we live in. You want to set rules based on the hope that the world can be a better, happier place if we just try to control it. Best we can do is try to stop violence and cruelty, and we usually fail at that.
    So, no… I do not see a world where behaviors are effectively corrected or limited. I think you’ve got to pick your battles, and consensual sex is a stupid one to fight, even if I thought it was wrong. Let people do as they wish so long as they don’t hurt anyone else, and spend your efforts going against the murderers, rapists, and pedophiles. THAT is where we have to ‘correct and limit’ behavior.

  8. Anita says:

    I am spending my efforts going against the murderers. Abortion is cruel and violent. It always leaves one person dead and sometimes two. To reduce abortions, one must change the hearts and minds of people. And that’s where I’m starting.

    You forget the role of law as teacher. I know that if everybody adopted the Catholic viewpoint, and governments all based their laws on it, there would be thousands of people who would still break those laws. But many people would choose a better path as a consequence.

    There are laws against speeding, but still people speed. Are you saying, we shouldn’t try to control motorists’ speeds?

    Anyhow, you’re no different than the religions you rail against. You, too, are trying in your own way to “set rules based on the hope that the world can be a better, happier place if we just try to control it.” You think the control lies in removing all religion from the public sphere, and preferably also from the private sphere through a process of “re-education.” Your livelihood comes from lambasting religions and often religious people for good measure. You have little chance of success. Hardly anybody responds to your posts and you’re having trouble selling your book.

    Why not throw in the towel, and restart your career? Use your gift of writing for good. Pick a small area of expertise, such as how to remove termites from your basement, and see where it takes you.

  9. admin says:

    But I AM using my gift of writing for good. Every person I draw away from the churches is a win for society. Any time I can convince even one person that they have no right to inflict religious laws on a secular society, it betters the world.
    And no, I am not trying to control anyone. I fight for the rights of any person to do any thing he or she wants to do, providing they don’t hurt anyone else doing it. You would stop gays from being gay, polygamists from having multiple wives, and make one-night-stands illegal if you could. All of this is an attempt to stop people from doing what they want to do when they’re not hurting anyone else. Same is true of drug laws, prostitution laws, etc. Religious people are on a never-ending quest to save people from themselves, and substitute human nature for religious ethics..

    I say be human. Do drugs if you want to. Have sex with who you want to. You may kill yourself in the process, but that too is an individual’s right in a secular society.

    And no one responds to my posts because I cut off most posts years ago, and took down the chat room. I learned that I don’t really like moderating. The books sells very well, especially since it’s gotten in e-format. Your loving Vatican newspaper even mentioned it.

    So no, I’m not going to stop. In fact, I think the age of religions is now dying, while a free secularism is on the rise. Just take a look at the pews around you at church and the numbers should prove that out. So many of them have already closed up shop. In another generation or two the remaining churches will be gone; sold off to developers who will turn them into condos. By the time you’re 90, churches will be quaint little corners in hospital wards and old age homes.

    Come to think of it, your termite analogy is rather apt…

  10. Steve says:

    I find it interesting that the majority of religions do not prohibit pre-marital sex for the male, only for the female. Men could rape and pillage as often as they like, or as often as god decreed, which was about the same.

    As far at the christian/jewish prohibition against the pre-marital sex. I think it has more to do with the idea of “property” than sin. In the old testament, wives and children were property, commodities if you will, to be acrued and tended to. Additionally, a man’s lineage within the tribe was important. (Hence all the “begat” language) Pre-marital or unmarried offspring upset the balance in the tribe and lineage becomes impossible to prove. I doubt that any “churches” of the ancient times were too concerned with babies showing up on doorsteps.

    Human nature has not changed. There were prescriptions for birth control methods in ancient Egypt and designs for “marital aids” for pete’s sake. Yes, we are very much the same.

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  12. Capn Richard says:

    Well,
    I certainly didn’t come here to pick a fight, just to see if the atheists have come up with anything intelligent yet. And though I disagree, totally, with the Roman Catholics’ way as in religion, I have to take sides with the ladies here. At least they have a much larger fol,lowing than you do.
    And, although you may think it’s cute marking your books price as such, in the end, we will have to see who’s cute. Or even intelligent in our life choices. I particularly like your unashamed poll where you don’t give the real Christian a chance in, oh do you believe in, hell!
    Abortion is a really sore subject when it comes to Catholics or Evangelicals (which I must lay claim to because they do have a very historical book, called the Bible, to stand upon) where they get it straight from God(yahuah, YahWeh)’s 10 Commandments. Here Yahuah says it IS a sin (for those that don’t understand-it means wrong, very) to commit murder. When you take a next day pill, or whatever they call it, one doen’t know if one has become pregnant, therefore it cannot be murder. But, paying a clinic and Dr So-So to violate your person before they violate another person’s right to life and a pursuit to happiness; well, tht is murder no matter how it’s spelled, explained, critiqued, or defended.
    As much as I’d love to, I won’t be spending much time here for I’m buiding my own blog site, no. 1, no 2- I forgot that this is not the Facebook group I joined. How silly can one get? My blog site is (NOW) Realijun.wordpress.com, soon to be (tho it actually is already, I have some re-modelling to do) Realijun.com. in my early days I blogged on Greta-wire as Capn Richard, until they started, very rudely I must add, taking away some or all of my comments. Go ahead and cheer, if you must, BUT
    As for your book sales, I do not wish you well; I must say truthfully, but it does give me some more writing and praying material. May I call you out by name? No matter, I plan to anyway. It i time for me to bid you good people, and even you, William Heathen hopper, the bad one (or a wannabe bad boy, hate I’m on the losing side kinda guy), adieu.
    Mr. Heathen, you are welcome to come to my place, just as I did yours, and commit your spiel, in the near future.
    Good-bye (for now), may God(Yahuah, Yah-Weh) richly bless you,
    Capn Richard- have only begun to roar in the name of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ (Yahusha, Yeshua)

  13. admin says:

    Sorry mate…. The Heathen’s Guide has been a best seller for over ten years. I figure I win the ‘cute’ competition.
    As to your sacred ten commandments, there are two versions of them in the Torah, given by Yahweh in Exodus 20 and again when the tablets were replaced in Exodus 34. The “Thou Shalt Not Kill” line is NOT in the second version of the Ten Commandments. (Exodus 34) I guess your God decided to edit out the killing part, so it’s all good now. [Unless you figure God screwed up and the original are better than the ones he gave after Sinai?]

  14. Steve says:

    Wow! A condescending and self important christian. Never saw THAT coming.

    So, the “very historical” bible is straight from Yahweh? He wrote all the individual books or certain ones or just parts of each book? It is an important question.

    Let’s say for the sake of argument that He (By the way, I capitalize the word simply to identify Who we are talking about, the same way I would capitalize the name Peter Pan) wrote “some” of the books. Which ones get the God given stamp of approval and which ones don’t? For example, which of the Ten Commandments were His? One or both?

    Let’s say He wrote all of them. You say he has a problem with murder, that it is a sin. (Thanks for the definition by the way, now I don’t have to Google it.) Your Yahweh kills indescriminantly for such “heinous” crimes as touching or looking a holy relic, failing to impregnate someone, failing to have the tip of your penis removed, laughing at a bald man (That’s funny, He has to be a Monty Python fan!) etc…He has no trouble killing anyone it seems: Ezekiel 9:6,”Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women….” and 1 Samuel15:3, “…slay both man and woman, infant and suckling….” Wow. Nice God you got there buddy!

    It’s too bad you won’t be visiting here much, I enjoyed your post. It’s one of the funniest I’ve read by a christian. Who says you-all don’t have a sense of humor?

  15. Mike says:

    Just bought your book finished in in less than 8 hours. couldnt put it down. Came across by total accident now its christmas book time. Anita has soe ok points but all from a one sided view and capt richard had to much capt morgan

  16. admin says:

    Thanks. I’m planning on locking myself away this summer to get more books done for the year.

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